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10:53 pm
7/4/09

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Well, the town fireworks were interesting. They were set off to a soundtrack on one of the few local radio stations, "Kickin' Country". Selections included Neil Diamond's "They Come To America" to Nathan Hale's Gallows speech, selections from the Declaration of Independance read to the music of Jurassic Park, but the Grand Finale left no doubt that some in this area still aspire to theocratic dominion- the Grand finale was to "In God We Still Trust" performed by whiny voiced "Diamond Rio", a paean against separation of church and state. It kind of puzzled me how there was all the stuff about the sacrifices and ideals of the founders and then a whiny badly written badly executed song decrying what the founders fought for as the big grand finale, saying there is no separation between church and state and we owe all our money and "freedoms" to God and not anything else.

I guess they lost the right to force all bars to be private clubs you had to pay and fill out a form to enter so they have to tell us they're still in control somehow. :P

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On July 5th, 2009 12:34 pm (UTC), [info]controuble commented:
I always wonder why anybody would think their church would be the one picked to be the national church if there was no separation of church and state. After all, no one church has a clear majority.

I also wonder what they'd do when that other church is picked. Utah being as strange as it is would probably try to secede and become its own theocracy.

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On July 5th, 2009 01:23 pm (UTC), [info]theresamather replied:
I wonder that too... many evangelicals totally revile Mormon doctrine..I have seen Mormons get attacked many times, so I would think they of all people would understand the need to prevent evangelical control of the federal government.

There actually is a lot of talk about succession and needing to shed blood in Utah right now, ironically from many of the same people who were calling for punishment and trial for treason for anyone who didn't support Bush "110%" during a "time of war". Although I just think some of them want an excuse to go out and shoot Californians, who they blame for most of their problems. It isn't the majority view that Utah needs to secede, but there are many loud people who utterly hate Obama and see him as some kind of anti-American figurehead who will have to be removed by force. (one local gun store even had an "Obama special" on high caliber ammunition recently) The ironic thing is that Utah is a poor state that takes more money from the federal government than it pays in, including nearly $200 million for an airport locally that will have one route (to Salt Lake City) for a locally owned airline and offer connections only through Delta. They love the pork as long as "outsiders" are paying and yet they loudly revile the "outsiders" who pockets they just picked.

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On July 5th, 2009 09:01 pm (UTC), [info]darrelx replied:
Gene Wilder to Cleavon Litle in Blazing Saddles:

"You've got to remember these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land -- the common clay of the new west. You know... Morons."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHqL7dNujNc

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